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I'm becoming accustomed to your outlandish claims. I just finished reading _The Contagion Myth_ after you mentioned it in one of your posts. I don't particularly like having to re-examine everything I thought I knew about science, which I have been exploring ever since I learned to read (1st grade, c. 1957), but what else can a person do?

The worst part is that I was already aware of much of what the book presents, but something about my mind didn't want to fit the pieces together. I am left now with more new questions than answers, but questions are a good thing, I guess. Thank you for the claims.

And by the way, I have a limited but independent source of information about Maui, someone living on another island there that is in contact with an eyewitness Maui resident, someone that lived through what happened. This person's reports are generally consistent with those of other responsible "alternative" sources, although the main focus is upon delivering (or should I say smuggling in) humanitarian aid.

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I think your path is similar to that of many other people who are now learning about all of this.

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This, by the way, comes in the wake of learning about other scientific fields and what a bad joke they are. Again, I was aware of quite a bit of this but it wasn't sinking in.

And then there is my own field, computer science. I thought the work I did across my career would ultimately be beneficial. I was wrong. I can see now where it was actually leading.

My work now is in the Azure cloud and oh, what that is showing me, technology with which to enslave the world, what will be left of it. But also insight into how Babylon the Great could fall in one hour (or one day).

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Life is an ongoing learning curve.

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I would be interested in hearing what you learned about Azure, and how they plan to enslave the world. I think I know but would like to hear your thoughts.

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I need to keep this down to a few words, and it is easier to see a concept than to write about it, but I'll see what I can do.

To the outside world Azure is robust and secure on a global scale when developers take advantage of all that it offers (and when cost is not a concern). I have been able to harden my application much more easily (and inexpensively) than when it was running in a simple on-premises environment. Authentication and authorization are solid (although these have more to do with other frameworks that I integrate into the app). Geo-redundancy is readily available if/when the requirements justify the cost.

It's a great environment in which to run secure apps. The problem is this: if it is used to run a collection of apps that maintain databases containing the global population's personal data -- identity, money, and so on -- connected with data feeds that track every accessible aspect of every person's life, the result can host a robust, secure, digitally-based global prison system. That potential is here today. The computing power, security, storage, redundancy, and scalability are here. All it would take is the right apps and data feeds.

So the technology is dual use. It is presented as a solid, economical place to host business applications, which it is. But it could just as well be weaponized, the robustness and security serving not to keep bad actors out but to be employed by bad actors to enslave and control. It's a matter of who is using it and how it is used.

As for how to bring the whole thing down in one hour, a massive directed global shower of hundred-pound hailstones might do the job (Rev. 16:21). There are other ways as well.

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Thanks for that information CM.

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Thank you

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Answer can be found in Rev. 18

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Yes, I do like Rev. 18. I've spent quite a bit of time there, studying portions of it in the Greek.

Any particular part you are thinking of? 🙂

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Aug 31, 2023Liked by Kyle Young

DEWs appear to be a reasonable explanation for the fire that targeted specific items (mobile homes, metal cars) but WHY did govt do this? What's the motive? To test DEWs? A trial run for a REALLY REALLY BIG fire? To condemn the land so the elites can buy it cheap and develop it into ultra-expensive housing estates? Scare the populace into fearing Climate Change? What?

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I'm not sure the government did this. Truth be told, I'm not sure we even have a government anymore. As with covidcon, I think it may have been more of a collaboration between the DoD and all the various corporations that stand to benefit.

As for why... I think all of the reasons you provided are valid?

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How about a criminal operation consisting of government, spy agencies, industry/corporations, NGOs, organized crime, and whatever else, and not necessarily distinct from each other?

As I have suggested elsewhere, while individuals may expect gain, they may all together be driven by other "influences" desiring complete destruction. That could be the goal. It makes about as much sense as anything else.

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There is profit to be derived from destruction. Look at who made money from Katrina, 9/11, the 2008 economic collapse, and now, as I pointed out in the post, those who are doing so in the wake of the Maui fires - bankers, resorts, FEMA, the Red Cross etc.

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Well yes, but when the desired destruction includes oneself and everyone and everything else, then we are into something truly satanic.

Do psychopaths do what they do for monetary gain? My few personal encounters with them appear mixed in that regard. Some did, some didn't.

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If you can tell you're ahead of me.

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Let me sum it up in 1 word: Jesuits

Corporations like Facebook, Google, and Amazon, are CIA creations, and like I’ve been saying for years: The CIA is a Jesuit entity.

These people are Luciferian, cloaking themselves within Secret Societies like Freemasonry, Knights Templar, Malta, etc…

But at the core they’re mostly Babylonian Talmudic Jews, who are correctly identified in the following verses:

Revelation 2:9 (KJV) I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9 (KJV) Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Acts 7:43 (KJV)

Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

Revelation 17:4-7 (KJV) 4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: 5 And upon her forehead [was] a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. 7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

Revelation 17:9 (KJV) And here [is] the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

Revelation 17:18 (KJV) And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

I think these people are descendants of nephilim hybrids aka serpent seed. They masquerade as followers of Jesus, when in reality they are Luciferians.

This video breaks down the difference between a Jew, a Hebrew, and an Israelite. Worth its weight in gold, especially for. Zionist Christian’s here in America that blindly support Israel, because they have been deceived into believing a lie.

https://rumble.com/v4u2n50-why-the-jews-are-not-gods-chosen-people-2024.html

I have tons of links that I could provide, but this is a great starting point.

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As I sometimes like to say, yes, I've noticed. Presently I am studying more about what God is up to, in the spirit of Rom. 12:1-2 and many other passages that are starting to look to me more and more as though they saying things distinctly different from what the visible church is teaching and doing, to put it mildly. Actually, I started in 1 Cor. 1-3 (that's how far I am so far in that book), digging into the context and the original language, and my oh my. I've never heard this material taught this way, and I am finding more like it elsewhere, all the time.

My guess is that much or most of the church finds passages like these to be extreme or perhaps incomprehensible, things to skim over. Also, my guess is rather that what much or most of the church is teaching (or perhaps omitting) and doing is in fact extreme in certain respects. It doesn't matter that much which flavor of church, although there might be exceptions, some exceptionally bad.

I'm beginning to see Zionism as one part of a larger problem, although that particular problem seems to have recently led to a group of people splitting off from the church I belong to and starting another one, so it's kind of in my face at the moment. I don't know exactly what happened thanks to "privacy". And the sins hiding behind "privacy" and other such covers, in most or all churches, are likely to amount to much more trouble than Zionism alone. And yet assembling together is part of God's design for us.

What bothers me most is that the more I look into what's going on with the church, the more of my own unrecognized sin I discover. I could ask "why aren't these things taught?" And I do, and answers come.

James 4:4-5 You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. Or do you suppose it is to no purpose that the Scripture says, “He yearns jealously over the spirit that he has made to dwell in us”?

Extreme?

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Why indeed. Motive may sometimes be overrated. See my reply to Kyle.

I have another standard reply to the "why" question, though I can't elaborate on it today. I'll just say that the "they" doing these things may be a reflection of we the people. Consider the possibility that _we_ (collectively) may be the real problem, and then ask why we do the things that we do.

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A few bad apples...

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Spoil more than the whole barrel?

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In a way. The majority of people now have chronic illness and according to recent estimates we've lost 70% of wild animal species.

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Sep 16, 2023Liked by Kyle Young

Why the fire in Lahaina? Maybe to force the residents out so their property can be sold (at fire-sale prices) to developers?

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So your source of information is consistent with what we’ve heard other locals and independent journalists, reporters have been reporting?

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Loved the opening Bible verses, because that’s exactly who is behind all of this. This is a spiritual war for the souls of men, and these fallen angels have an entire army of wicked people at their disposal. Both men and women who have sold out for worldly pleasures. There are many names for this bunch, but the same people behind all of this chaos.

The Illuminati, Freemasons, Jesuits, Knights Templar, Order of the eye 👁️, Talmudic Jews, etc...

All one and the same!!! Luciferians, so-called enlightened ones, who have decided to eat of the tree of knowledge, and to forgo the Tree of Life.

These people are the enemies of Jesus Christ (God Almighty), and He will destroy them all upon His return.

The name Yeshua in Hebrew literally means the Hand 🖐️ which destroys the Order of the eye 👁️.

This is exactly what the Bible reveals in Daniel Chapter 2.

The Jesuits are Talmudic (Jews, not Israelites) who control Freemasonry, and Roman Catholicism, along with Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. They will combine these religions into one eventually.

These people use symbols to communicate and to brag...they love Obelisks, Pyramids (especially with separated capstones), and all seeing eye 👁️ symbolism.

See below for just a few local examples of their handy work in my area.

Here is the key to figuring things out:

Synagogue of Satan

Revelation 2:9 (KJV) I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9 (KJV) Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Acts 7:43 (KJV)

Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

Revelation 17:4-7 (KJV) 4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: 5 And upon her forehead [was] a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. 7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

Revelation 17:9 (KJV) And here [is] the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

Revelation 17:18 (KJV) And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

The woman = Great City, she also represents the bride of Christ, but this woman is a whore, so clearly a false bride..

I believe this to be Vatican City aka the home of Roman Catholicism.

The Beast is a global empire which will reign over all of the kings of the earth.

The UN 🇺🇳 is headquartered in NYC, but it’s the Papacy that controls her. Just look at the UN flag for proof.

The Laurel Wreath is the symbol for Caesar’s crown, and when it surrounds territory on a flag, it’s implied that everything inside of this wreath, is the empire/domain of Caesar.

The Jesuit Pope holds the title of Caesar, and is considered the supreme ruler of the Holy Roman Empire (Beast)

https://imgur.com/a/o2jLgQv

https://imgur.com/a/IiqYX0B

https://imgur.com/a/oJn8WaO

https://imgur.com/a/rnqVFhC

I don’t have the time right now to explain all of this in detail, but perhaps this video will wake some people up. It’s very interesting and will reveal so much truth to those who watch it, that I would advise caution.

After seeing this video, your world matrix will be shattered forever, thus it’s a red pill production.

https://theserapeum.com/the-last-video-about-the-flat-earth-v-heliocentric-globe-earth-model-of-rome-youll-ever-need-to-see/

It’s long but life changing...bookmark this, and make sure to watch the entire thing. All roads lead to Rome...and then straight to Hell!!!

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The only thing I can think of that would be more tyrannical than a one world government is a one world religion based out of Rome (or anywhere else).

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Well, the same people that control the nation of Israel, control the Vatican too. The Bible not only talks about the Son of Perdition, but a False Prophet too.

I believe Obama and Pope Francis could very well be these two. Time will tell.

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Aug 31, 2023Liked by Kyle Young

That would be Freemasons, Khazarian Mafia, they go by many names. They're Luciferians,masters of deceit and disguise.

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Scary thought.

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Oh please.

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This woman’s prophecy blog is very interesting, and she’s already predicting a Kamala Harris Presidency, with Obama controlling her, until the time when he can resume power openly.

She is also claiming that Trump will be taken out (killed) by his enemies, and it will utterly crush the hopes of Americans who have idolized him.

I’ve seen a ton of fake prophets, but this woman seems to be the real deal. Listen for yourself and see what you think.

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There are no Talmudic Jews. The Khazarian Mafia who are not Jews wrote the Talmud.

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The term Jew is a loaded word. Your statement is half correct. They aren’t real Jews, but they aren’t all Khazarian Mafia either. The following video does an excellent job of revealing the truth. Well worth your time to watch. It helped fill in a few holes for me personally:

https://rumble.com/v4u2n50-why-the-jews-are-not-gods-chosen-people-2024.html

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They call themselves Jews, and they are liars just like the Bible said in revelations chapter 2:9 and revelation chapter 3:9

This is why I said (Jews, not Israelites)

They’re Edomites according to the Bible, and even the ones who are truly Ashkenazi are still not Jewish, rather Gentiles, according to Genesis Chapter 10.

Ashkenaz was a son of Japheth, not Shem.

Genesis 10:1-5 (KJV) 1 Now these [are] the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood. 2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. 3 And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah. 4 And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. 5 By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

GENTILES!!!

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So says YOUR. Bible. Who wrote it? How do you know it wasn't altered? That's what you want to believe knock yourself out. Just don't preach it here dude.

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I suppose people that leave offensive comments are just begging for attention, so I’ll entertain you for a time.

You didn’t even refute what I posted, yet you are telling me to keep quiet?

Are you the author of this Substack?

If you’re so adamant that the Bible is not God’s word, and that it has been altered, then provide your proof, and if you can’t do that, than perhaps it’s you that needs to 🤐.

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Wrong, Yeshua means Salvation. And you’re mimicking what other ignorant ones have been spewing for a very long time, ones who gave never ever read or studied the Talmud, but yet vilify it. There is nothing worse than making an assumption or declaration about anything in life without first having analyzed it thoroughly. The same goes with lumping the Masons into your list. Have you thoroughly studied the history and do you have understanding? (Bimah and Gnosis?) You have but if truth mixed with lies here, sort of like that old tree of good and evil.

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I don’t disagree with part of your comment.

The Yeshua comment I made was sourced from Rob Skiba, and i probably should have done a better job explaining my point.

All Hebrew letters have multiple meanings, and he was explaining this in a video presentation that he had given a few years back.

I doubt he was mistaken on that, however, I suppose anything is possible. I don’t know Hebrew, and wasn’t going to waste a lot of time on verifying that, as we all know Jesus will indeed destroy the wicked empire upon his return. This is indeed written in the Bible, specifically Daniel Chapter 2.

I suppose I could go find the video and link it, to prove my point, but once again, I can’t be bothered to waste the time. It’s out there online somewhere for those who don’t mind looking for it.

As far as the Talmud is concerned...

I have never read the Talmud, merely books revealing verses from it.

I should probably do my homework on it, so that I can verify first hand that what I’ve read about it is indeed correct. My assumption is that anything that contradicts the Bible, is evil, including the writings of the oral traditions of a bunch of scribes and Pharisees, who even Jesus Christ rebuked openly...making the Law of God of none effect through their traditions.

Your comment on the masons triggered me.

The Mason’s are a bunch of liars and deceivers. Lumping them into my comment is only fitting, as they are everywhere in this realm, sowing their seeds of chaos, working towards their goal of a One World Order. Littering the landscape with their occult symbolism.

Putting them everywhere from church buildings to corporate logos.

They think that everyone is blind to their mischief....they’re wrong.

I’ve already seen a lifetime of solid proof as to more than prove their wickedness. I know exactly what they are, and whom they serve.

Even Albert Pike himself once said the following:

o you, Sovereign Grand Inspectors General (33rd Degree Masons), we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st, and 30th degrees: 'The Masonic religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine.'

-Albert Pike

Because the morons below the 29th degree have no idea what’s going on. They’re just frogs in warm water. Eventually they’ll find out, and usually by then the pot is too hot to jump out.

As far as me mixing truth and lies, that isn’t something that I agree with either.

I haven’t lied about anything in any of my comments.

Everything I have commented on is 💯 true, according to my own knowledge.

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Aug 31, 2023Liked by Kyle Young

A lot of good links in this article, Kyle. Yes, Trump has ties to Tesla thru his uncle. Much of this same topic is discussed by Dark Journalist. UFO connection but I don't believe in "aliens". Even Trump once mentioned in an interview that he didn't believe them. No, I do not have the link. It was a very quick comment. Sometimes when he speaks, you have to go back and relisten to catch some small drops of info. Yes, Nixon liked him and wanted him to run for Prez. The government and Hollyweird has close ties. Why is it "spaceships" that people see are most like what was/is in the movies? Now all aliens look like ET? And because of that movie "Stargate" everyone's talking about portals? Come on, Man.

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Lots of questions.

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Aug 30, 2023Liked by Kyle Young

Amazing, I've already written the song for this event but we focus on some of the same occurrences and language. Once again, thank you Kyle

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Let's hear it!

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Yes! Must record and have no equipment for that. (Even the kryptonite, Kyle. It's spookey.)

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Aug 30, 2023Liked by Kyle Young

You’re one of the few I know who make claims more outlandish than my own. Refreshing to read. Unfortunate the topics are so sobering.

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Thank you, I think:)

I agree with your sentiment.

Over 1 billion views - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN4ooNx77u0

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Aug 31, 2023Liked by Kyle Young

I appreciate your work, Kyle.

Harry is much more comfortable with heights than i am….

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I wrote a bit about the Devil recently. Eliphas Levi spoke clearly about the current agenda back in 1854.

https://williamhunterduncan.substack.com/p/on-the-problem-of-evil-part-ii

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Good piece. Folks should read it.

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Sep 10, 2023Liked by Kyle Young

The history of the Red Cross is nefarious. The Red Cross was in bed with Hitler and did nothing to help the victims of the concentration camps.

Karl Gebhardt, a Defendant in the Doctor's Trials at Nuremburg, (Nov 21, 1946 - July 20, 1947) was a Major General in the Waffen SS AND President of the German Red Cross!

A leopard never changes his spots.

Sources:

"If This is a Woman, Inside Ravensbruck: Hitler's Concentration Camp for Women". Sarah Helm, Author.

"Doctors from Hell: The Horrific Account of Nazi Experiments on Humans." Vivian Spitz, Author.

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It's hard to imagine all the highfalutin people that would be dragged into a Nuremberg style court today.

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Sep 6, 2023Liked by Kyle Young

Glad to see you covering this. I saw an interview on Patriot Underground on Rumble with Eric West, in which he said a Maui resident had described the ground sort of undulating right before a car outside his house burst into flames. This doesn't sound like a "wildfire." A dog under the car died, but his fur wasn't even burned. Lots of stories sort of leaking out slowly, and lots of comments on West's videos from those who survived the Paradise fire. If we had an actual free media, and were allowed to openly discuss all these stories, we might eventually get to the truth. Unfortunately, . . .

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Thanks for subscribing Cheryl. Freech!

The fires on Maui are similar to so many other contrived events in that too few want to do the forensic work of putting all the details together to suss out what actually happened. Certainly the legacy media is not going to do that.

Do you have a link to that Rumble interview with West?

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Just watched it. Good stuff.

Thanks for the link.

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Another great piece, Kyle! Your research is excellent. I wish I had the time to watch all of your linked videos. I did watch Really Graceful, and I think she's spot on. I'm bookmarking UNconventional for when I have more viewing time.

Angry righteousness is our Creator-given response to those inflicting harms upon us, and noncompliance is appropriate. In more egregious instances, activation of the Divine Masculine Principle is to FIGHT if and when necessary!

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Thanks for the reminder.

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In times of chaos like these, now is the best time for us to order society how we want to see it . A better way is possible, and a 15 minute village is the way.

Thanks for helping open some eyes Kyle with the DEW info.

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Decentralize...

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You're not serious?

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I mean 15 min villages as the answer to their cities - build in parallel and use their popular dogma and wording/ zeitgeist in our favor

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None of their dogma or wording should be recognized or have any kind of platform.

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Aug 30, 2023Liked by Kyle Young

They already have control. Now they want a fight. They’ve had control for centuries, now folks are just noticing. The geoengineering piece is dominated by the same voices, why?, and there’s an insane amount of infighting and misdirection. I’ve been following it and posting about it for many years. Folks are waking up? To what? To the fact they can’t do anything about it. Except maybe, turn the hands of time back about 100 years ago, because weather modification has existed since before aviation. Folks used to cheer about the idea in the 1950s! Glad to read your post, see the info is still disseminating at some level, but folks are going to have to give up the tech we’ve all come to rely on for that to happen, which will not happen. Give up the pursuit of money and leisure? Give up the pursuit of global comfort? Learn to make sacrifices? They will skip to the guillotine before that happens.

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Thanks for reading Mishelle.

If little ol' me can do it, anyone can do it.

Substack and many of the other independent platforms didn't come into being until more recent years. I believe this is why there is more awareness today than ever before. More awareness means more pushback in the form of noncompliance.

Even without that, I've written several times about how Vaclav Hovel succeeded at bypassing the Soviet Union in Czechoslovakia, which helped lead to the downfall of the SU. I would have to disagree that nothing can be done.

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Aug 30, 2023Liked by Kyle Young

I didn’t mean nothing can be done. I mean nothing in the form of a political solution exists, not then either with Havel. I will check out your articles, but the destruction was done long before he came into ‘power’ -- these guys have no power, not real power. What must be done will be done at the level of the individual. The strongest will stop selling out, stop selling out their families, children and futures.

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Agreed. If tens of millions do not comply, much will change.

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I don't remember anyone ever cheering about weather modification.

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Aug 31, 2023Liked by Kyle Young

Really? What do you remember? How about this one? https://climateviewer.com/president-lyndon-johnson-weather-wafare/.

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Yup, that's the one I referred to in the post.

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Aug 31, 2023Liked by Kyle Young

His site is pretty legendary! Here’s one you might not have seen yet: https://journaljammr.com/index.php/JAMMR/article/view/3518 Coal fly ash on heart health.

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Great link. Thanks.

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First, that was the 70s. Secondly, I don't see anyone cheering.

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If you're referring to LBJ's comment about controlling the weather and the world, that was 1962 when he said that. As I pointed out in the post, he was VP then. As I also mentioned in the post, after he became president he used weather modification (it wasn't called geoengineering back then) extensively in Viet Nam.

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I doubt anyone was cheering.

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... except those who stood to profit from the newly emerging weather modification industry.

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💯🎯

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Yes, it is. Roadblocks in particular, for people that were trying to escape are confirmed. In addition, there are ongoing efforts by "authorities" to prevent delivery of essential supplies to the people who need them. These are not journalists, and as I said the information filtering through is limited, but I have good reason to trust it, coming from locals engaged in trying to help the people of Lahaina, one of whom I am familiar with and who is highly reliable and has nothing to gain from this.

It is best that I not say more -- I don't know much more -- and it is unfortunate that secrecy is necessary for aid to be rendered successfully. That says a lot right there about what is really going on.

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". . . . the fires in Maui are serving as a wake up call for many who missed that call during covidcon."

I woke up very early on in the Covid con and I have stayed awake ever since. I am now especially alert to people claiming that a burned out car by the side of the highway two miles outside of Lahaina is evidence that it was melted by a DEW. There's 'conspiracy theories' which become reality and then there is rampant, unintelligent, evidence-free speculation.

https://jaimejessop.substack.com/p/burned-out-cars-in-lahaina-break

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Pointing to pictures of burned out cars and not providing any cause for their burning (no context) is questionable. Did you read my previous post?

May I suggest your do some research into DEW's before you deny.

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I don't need to do research into DEWs to conclude that the most likely reason that car burned was that it was ignited by heat or embers from an intense wildfire which swept across the highway where it was found. I don't need to do research into DEWs to know that when cars do catch fire, they burn VERY HOT, fuelled by their own supply of highly combustible materials, including fuel. They burn hot enough to melt aluminium wheels and trim. You don't need a DEW to explain that.

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Have you even watched the video? If you had you would know that there was no "intense wildfire which swept across the highway where it was found". So how did those cars catch fire?

Besides the fuel in the very well engineered tank, just what are all those "highly combustible materials" you're referring to? Where is your proof that all those materials burn hot enough to melt aluminum wheels?

Apparently you've still not bothered to read my previous post, nor have you done any research on DEW's. If you had you would know that Maui has two major DEW's facilities. You would also know that wood combusts at 550F, aluminum melts at 1,200F, and depending on the alloy, metal melt at 2370 to 2800 F.

As we can clearly see in those and many other videos, much of the aluminum went well beyond the melting point to achieve the burning point, an exceedingly hot 3632F. At that point it becomes the white ash now commonly seen in the videos and throughout the Lahaina area.

Here's the critical piece of information - gasoline combusts at 495F, lower than wood. In the ideal scenario a raging gas fire can produce heat up to a little above 1,500F. That's a long way from 3632F. In a typical fire where the temperature is steadily increasing the aluminum would first melt before burning. As we see in the videos, some melted but most got so hot so quickly that it went right past the melting stage and immediately advanced to the burning stage.

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"Besides the fuel in the very well engineered tank, just what are all those "highly combustible materials" you're referring to? Where is your proof that all those materials burn hot enough to melt aluminum wheels?"

Are you not familiar with the interiors of modern cars? They are packed full of combustible plastic/vinyl materials which will burn and release great amounts of heat in the process. What happened to the seats in your Lahaina vehicle? What happened to all the interior trim and the flooring carpets? All gone because they burned - very hot.

"As we can clearly see in those and many other videos, much of the aluminum went well beyond the melting point to achieve the burning point, an exceedingly hot 3632F. At that point it becomes the white ash now commonly seen in the videos and throughout the Lahaina area."

Solid aluminium does not burn. Aluminium particles will burn because of their very large surface area compared to mass. Are you suggesting that solid aluminium was vaporised (i.e. the aluminium was heated so intensely that it boiled very rapidly to form a cloud of aluminium vapour which then ignited)? In that case, there would be no evidence of 'ash' from burnt solid aluminium. Solid aluminium in a car fire will melt. It is very common to see melted aluminium in car fires because cars burn at temperatures which exceed the melting point of aluminium. So there's a few facts for you.

It is also a fact that there are areas of burnt grass visible either side of the road in the vicinity of the burned vehicle. The car looks like it is on the seaward side of the road. The grass fire swept down from the mountain slopes on the opposite side, driven by very strong winds. It is entirely conceivable that heat or embers from that wildfire ignited the COMBUSTIBLE materials in/on the car. There are numerous photos online of vehicles burned during wildfires where there is no evidence of burned vegetation coming into direct contact with the vehicle (I posted one on my substack). This does not mean that heat/embers from the wildfire did not ignite the vehicle.

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Again, you provide no facts, no context for your car fire claims, and no evidence about the materials you mentioned. Just because you say something is so does not make it a fact. You need to provide evidence to back up your claims. So far you have provided none.

As for one of the videos, you are wrong. There was no fire - AT ALL - on the other side of the road.

If you insist on making comments here please first inform yourself by reading the post, reading the links, and watching the videos.

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BS. You can clearly see burned grass on the opposite side of the road, even though the commentator in the video claims there is no burned grass over there!

https://youtu.be/Q9L9WvlCli0?t=379

You claimed that aluminium burns. That is not true. Aluminium powder burns. Solid aluminium does not. Don't be lazy. Look up these facts for yourself. Why should I cite legitimate references when all you can give me in support of your claims are BS Youtube videos?

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The readers here aren’t the dimwits reading MSN articles, and falling for their propaganda. You might want to take your 30 pieces of silver and stick to MSN, CNN, or whatever site you’re being paid to troll. Most of the people here can see right through you.

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I don't read MSM and I'm not paid by anyone. You can't see right through me. You can't even see your way out of the foggy DEW which you fantasise about so incessantly and obsessively. There is absolutely no evidence that the vehicle in that absurd video was destroyed by anything other than a vehicle fire started by a brush fire. If anyone's trolling here, it's you, not me, I'm just presenting you with facts which you really don't like.

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Facts? Hahahaha...

What facts have you shared with us?

If calling somebody out for being a liar/deceiver, or ignorant, makes me a troll, then I am guilty as charged.

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You're calling me a liar? Please tell me specifically what lies I have uttered and then I can address your accusations.

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What facts?

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