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Oct 16, 2022·edited Oct 16, 2022Liked by Kyle Young

I read "Dune" as a teenager and loved it! Must reread it. (And I agree that Villeneuve managed to adapt it very skillfully; his version creates the right atmosphere, which is quite an achievement!). I think Dune's mythological appeal, like "Lord of the Rings", bypasses our rational mind and connects us to the collective unconscious, or memory. At the same time, it metaphorically depicts what's happening on our planet, as you expound so well.

By the way, don't depreciate yourself for being a "simple" farmer. My dad was one too, and one of the more brilliant people I know! A high-school educated renaissance man and critical thinker who, in his sparse spare time, tried to solve the problem of free energy. Unfortunately it's only now that I am living on a small farm/orchard myself, growing our own produce and keeping chicken, that I realize how much work it was to run the farm I grew up on. What the responsibility to care for 200 cows plus a lot of land and forest must have been, and how extensive and diversified he and my mom's knowledge had to be to take care of animals, crops, plants (orchard, berries and kitchen garden), heavy machinery and manage employees! Not to mention while raising four children (who weren't interested nor involved in the operation)! That too in another country from where we were born, with different languages and culture. - You seem to be cut from a similar cloth! So: Chapeau to all the "simple" farmers out there!

(Small correction: It's Vaclav Havel, not Hovel. I was fortunate enough to attend a talk he gave at a futuristic forum some 20+years ago. A highly intelligent man, with the heart in the right place, from what I could gauge.)

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Right, he is no hovel.

Most second, third, fourth generation - traditional - farmers that I've known have good critical thinking skills. It may have something to do with being immersed in nature and not separated from it like the same generational people growing up disconnected in concrete jungles in the city.

But I can't say that about farmers that have been using chemical farming practices. They seem just as disconnected. Toxins abound in cites and on chemical farms...

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Oct 16, 2022·edited Oct 17, 2022Liked by Kyle Young

I agree. Although in Switzerland, traditional farmers also have a reputation for being stubborn and somewhat narrow-minded. I believe it's because the mountainous terrain blocks the view and makes it difficult to "think big", or broad, which is mostly why my father felt the need to move to the Canadian expanses. (That said, a maternal aunt of mine was a pioneer of biological farming in Switzerland.) So aside from chemicals and other toxins, geography and topography also have a major impact on people's mindset and vision of the world in my experience.

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My impression was that melange or "spice" was a metaphor for oil, which is mostly controlled in the desert regions of our world and which also controls transportation and therefore commerce (as does spice). It is symbolic of any monopoly that controls everything indirectly. But the spice metaphor goes further than that, with the life-cycle of of the worm from which the spice is made, and its religious implications (which do not exist with oil, but the Middle East is full of religious fanaticism based in dry desert-thinking). Also that it makes its practitioners clairvoyant so they may navigate — and also makes them addicted — has many different implications. There is a lot of bending space and time going on in our environment. And much in the way of hegemonic rule, which the Dune series is all about.

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the counter argument here is that in the early 1960s oil was not considered an Arab thing; the US was a big producer as well. The analysis works better for the mid to late 1970s

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Good point.

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Greatly enjoyed and fascinatin', I always wonder'd 'bout the appeal of Dune but your 'splainin' its relevancy in detail makes it sound tee-riffic -- and likely very prescient (thinkin' my daughters would dig'it too).

2 quick thoughts--

the intuitive mentats of the strong minds seem also to have preserved pineal glands-- folks uninjected and unmedicated (unfluoridated too)... likely not the Amish per se as they are not learned... but some untainted group'a scholars...

the tleilaxu makes me think of the whole cult of cloning (ya don't have to buy into it but we all can see it in predictive programming and discussed on the alt "boards") which also brings up VR "replacements" of leaders as needed... some say Biden (at least on a bad day) is replaced by actors in slick silicone masks and CGI etc. make it all convincing to "viewers" (as we are all "viewers" now...)

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The pineal gland, uterus, testes, heart, liver, kidneys... is there any place in the human body that is not negatively affected by the jabs? But the pineal gland would relate very well to Rudolf Steiner's prediction over 100 year ago that a vaccine would come that would steal people soul.

https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/the-soul-stealing-covid-kill-shots

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Very interesting analogies, Kyle. I never read Dune, but there are so many cultural references to it that I had a vague notion of the story. Your description was helpful.

As far as helpful tips for moving within the world but not becoming of it (and I'm sure that you and readers are probably already aware of these, but I wanted to share):

1) Cook your own food as much as possible using simple, fresh ingredients (especially fruits, vegetables, legumes, nuts and seeds, and lots of mushrooms), avoiding chemical preservatives and processed garbage that is passed off as "food." This will help you remain physically and mentally healthy;

2) Learn practical skills for fixing things (think sewing, using hand tools, measuring, and using everyday maths), or barter with someone who already knows; and most important of all

3) Be creative! The CONs have exactly zero ability to create. All they do is mirror, copy, regurgitate, and reiterate. Don't watch their crappy movies/tv/internet shows/music videos or listen to the hideous music they produce unless you're prepared to do so with a critical mind because it's all bad programming! It has *always* been programming (the television was invented as a mind-control device!) but the last three decades of it is especially degenerative.

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Good additions. Thanks Sharine.

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Thanks, Kyle. We have solar but it's tied into the California grid-from-hell. Do you know what skills a person needs to be able to disconnect and be independent? I mean, I guess we'd first have to have the loan paid off. Ugh. We were such rubes.😣

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Yes, first get it paid off and make sure you have no further contractual obligations with the utility company. Your system is probably tied in to a digital meter which is monitoring all of your electrical usage and sending that info to some centralized computer where it's being monetized and sold to the highest bidder. It's also throwing off powerful EMF's to do all of that. So you'll want to disconnect from that meter - and the grid - to go completely off grid. It can be done, but given the complexity of grid tie-in systems, you'll want to work with a pro to help you unplug and set up a battery system, inverter, regulator and so.

I recommend Battle Born Batteries out of Reno and Exeltech inverters.

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Thank you so much, Kyle. Yes, I hate the "smart" meter and its terrible EMFs. As soon as we pay off the loan, I will find a local professional to help unplug and go indie! Thanks for the recommendations, too.

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Thanks, Kieron. Your comment and the link lead me to do more research. I found a Faraday cage option that is way more affordable and has a high rating. Not sure I'm ready to purchase right now, but I'm really *tired* (literally and figuratively) of the *myriad* negative effects of the Dumb Meter! I hope you are well.💖

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I never read any of the Dune books. I appreciate this explication, as that reading is likely something I will never get to.

What impresses me about a lot of science fiction is that it follows our most common narrative of how life on Earth developed. Things start out with simple and harmless people and then go bad from there as more technology is introduced. The conclusion is often that we should somehow return to the simple and peaceful ways of our ancestors.

But according to the work of Hubbard, Brown and Airl of Alien Interview (or whoever that really is), this in not the true story of Earth or of our universe.

Because our ability to remember, or "see," across lifetimes has been interfered with, we have lost our awareness of the real past. One key to restoring that awareness, then, would be to restore that ability to remember or "see." This is not an easy task for most people, but a bunch of Hubbard's group are achieving this, and Brown's group has developed a version of this and is trying to export it.

Because my own desire and ability to restore my "sight" was not that strong, I have chosen to attempt to make others aware of this work so that it will become part of the discussion and lead, perhaps, to a more robust "liberation" movement on Earth.

Though Dune's "spice" is a unique contrivance that dominates the plot of the entire series, it has many possible analogies in "real" life. I think in particular of the current push (backed by corporate funding it seems) to use psychedelics as mental health treatments. Though there may be some value to this, we have shot ourselves in the foot regarding it because we are studying the effects these drugs have on the brain rather than the effects they have on the mind, via the being who is of course the actual one seeing the hallucinations or other mental phenomena associated with drug use and trying to make sense of them.

To reiterate the story of life as it was discovered by Hubbard and verified in part by Brown: We started out as a group of causative individualities created by what could be seen as a Supreme Being. The truth of our own beginnings is considered relatively unimportant at this time. As creative individuals, we started to make our own universes, and these eventually got overtaken or conquered, you might say, by the Physical Universe we live in now. This creative process included the use of bodies, which now include mostly biological bodies but originally included energy bodies, doll or puppet bodies, and machine bodies (robots). We, as creative beings, created Biology and trapped ourselves in it, We, as creative beings, are capable of operating exterior to biology, and this fact has been amply demonstrated. It is considered a superior form of operation, though not without its drawbacks.

Thus, the most obvious way to escape the control mechanisms of the Corporate World (food, energy, building materials, transport) is to repair our ability to operate free of biology. However, this must include the ability to escape the "traps." The traps are electronic devices designed to disable free beings. They operate on the magical principle that to fight is to lose. They are very effective.

I don't relate all of the above to convince anyone of anything except for this: There are beings on this planet (and perhaps elsewhere) who have a different approach to freedom, and it is centered around the rediscovered truth that we are each points of causation who have deluded ourselves into thinking that we are merely mortal. Though this approach seems more esoteric than embracing sustainable practices, etc. (which has its own value) it is also more logically rigorous and, ultimately, the only possible way we could regain our freedom permanently. All body-based strivings can be foiled by mass genocide or even by very thoroughly organized police states. We have been building such a state on Earth for a long time, but this has accelerated since 9/11. We see a form of it at work currently in Iran, more widely in China, and less widely in Russia. Of course, we have a version of it here in the U.S. as well.

In this context, sustainability becomes a strategy to buy time to accomplish something that could last much longer. If we think that achieving sustainability on Earth is our highest purpose, then we leave ourselves open to further predations, both from internal and external predators. Some think our opportunities to buy a little more time are at their end. I think not. And as Hubbard has said, it might be just as well that we not be fully aware of what we are up against, as long as we continue to work towards our goals. The promise of a free eternity is not worth giving up on, no matter how overwhelming the effort may appear to be.

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There are those who would argue that psychedelic plants and animals are a gift from our creator to help us achieve the "sight" you describe. I can say they have helped me and numerous others I know move closer to that point, or at the very least have helped us to realize the possibility of doing so , which seems like a good first step.

I agree, sustainability is a dead end. However, a regenerative approach is highly creative, requiring forward looking sight and a deep understanding of what existed before.

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Am thinking about your energy rules. We who live in cities are vulnerable to utility companies rationing electricity, natural gas, and water in a supply shortage OR if a digital ID system is instituted and 'bad' behavior curtails our access. Utility companies will comply with whatever govt orders them to do. Ditto banks, hospitals, military, and all other institutions. Those who don't intend to go along to get along need to remove themselves from the hellhole that cities will become when order collapses.

A cob or straw bale house that keeps the indoor temp within a comfortable range is VERY appealing. Building a small house shaded by trees, windows facing south, is ideal. Where I live in Colorado, the summer temps are mid to high 80s and 95 for a few days. I don't like and don't have AC and so go out doors onto my covered south facing deck or under trees during the 4 hottest afternoon hours. Night temps are 70s. Opening windows on the north & south sides blows out the hot air. My electric bill is $40 in summer months. $140 in winter. I also agree that opting into utility company solar grid plans is not something I want.

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Cities are elite constructs of profit, order and control. The great scattering is coming. Time to get ready.

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Agreein' fully! (fanz o' Steiner here'bouts; with our kiddos, early-on, we did Waldorf a'plenty minus some of the thornier weird'o parts've Anthroposophy). Bless'im he knew the shots were lethal--to souls n' bodies too! 'Nuther point when ya wrote about Dune--those that connected with Nature did best, so important! an' Steiner's all about that 'a course. (We've been a'packin' all the wool n' wax n' watercolor supplies fer our pendin' move revisitin' those Waldorf "ahrts" which are bee-utee-ful things to behold! His approach gave kids a sense of the beauty of the world which wuz important when he started out with fact'ry worker kids...) So agreed! The jabs target bodies an' souls both.

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Anthroposophy has dun gone south. They endorsed the jabs.

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Oh no! (turrible!) Steiner'd be rollin' over in hiz grave!

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Oct 16, 2022·edited Oct 16, 2022

IIRC, the version of Dune that I recall was the 1984 movie with supporting actor Patrick Stewart, (later Capt Jean Luc Picard in Star Trek TNG). In that movie, on one particular planet, it was water that was a very scarce commodity, another "can of worms" that we need to pay close attention to. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_(1984_film)

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Hey grulla! Hope things are going well in your neck of the woods.

I saw that version made by David Lynch. Although Kyle MacLachlan did an admirable job playing Paul, most - myself among them - thought the rest of the movie was lacking.

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Kyle MacLachlan played Atreides in the 1984 film. While I didn't see his film debut, I did see him at the Ashland Oregon Shakespeare Festival, where, just after he graduated from the UofW actors training program and just before being tapped for this role, he played Romeo in R&J. This was the first summer (of many) that I went to Ashland, and it was THIS stage production that made me fall in love with Shakespeare. Kyle was the backstage tour leader that I was on (a task assigned to all rookie actors) and he was so full of JOIE DE VIVRE (later read he'd had a phone call from producer De Laurentis), that I fell in love with him and KNEW he was destined to be one of the GREATS of the theatre. I was wrong. Movies and TV were his destiny. Regardless, he has had what I hope he wanted - to be a working actor, an active participant in the wonderful world of theatre.

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Always hit Ashland during off-theater season. Someday.

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Seems to me, spice is oil.

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Could be. Could be other things as well. As Eric pointed out above, oil from the Arab deserts didn't really come into play until 10 years after Dune came out.

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