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I could not agree with you more on this issue as I am also in the Freedom Camp. I was in doubt about viruses myself and about twelve years ago I bought a book by Janine Roberts called Fear of the Invisible. It is still in print. There is an excellent synopsis here: https://www.davidpratt.info/roberts.htm

Roberts started off believing in viruses but her research changed her mind. They do not exist. They are only exosomes, or cell messengers. She did a thorough deep dive, and I became a convert. Since the publication, more has come out and that includes Suzanne Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk's book Dissolving Illusions. I tried to find the Youtube video of her visit to Leicester where the world's first anti-vax protests took place but they were taken down.

I strongly believe we can get rid of germ theory altogether after this plandemic has run its course. The signs are there that the narrative is crumbling. In the meantime, we need to stay united as divided we fall.

When the current crop of conservative virus believing gurus say they are not anti-vaxxers, I sigh and move on. This is not the time to go to war with them. I have to remember that is hard for a man to see the truth if not seeing the truth pays his salary. The truth will eventually come out, but until then we have a bigger battle to fight.

The truth is difficult to find sometimes because we put layers upon layers of lies upon it. It is sometimes best to remove one protective layer at a time.

I look forward to your blogs every week. You do not disappoint.

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Aww shucks Joanne, thanks.

Yup, as you and many others move the ball down the field, the defense crumbles in terror.

I typically feel the same way about those who seek legitimacy by proclaiming themselves as not being an antivaxxer. A lot of this was to highlight the developing distinctions without being overly accusatory.

Thanks for those book recomedations. I hadn't heard of either one.

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I read a lot of that book’s summary just now but I’m confused - in some places it suggests viruses are nothing more than exosomes, and in other places it talks about simian viruses like they are a real thing.

I’ve got a molecular biology degree - that I don’t use for my job, admittedly - but I’ve got to say that a lot of what was said in that summary was not convincing. For example, it talks about porcine enzymes being a potential contaminant, but they are so similar to our own gut enzymes that people take them as supplements if they have pancreatic conditions. The person writing it clearly didn’t have a sound grasp of science - it read like a journalist who has just learned a few concepts just recently.

The evidence I have seen for viruses far overwhelms this confused text. I certainly think we need to consider health as interacting complex systems, of which viruses are only one small part, but I certainly think they exist and are seperate to exosomes.

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Not sure what book you're referring to.

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Please listen to Dr Zach Bush’s lecture on virome. You may find it very interesting. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TEb33U0hHxM&t=270s

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Janine Roberts explains in her book that she was a provaxxer when she started her research. She believed in viruses and set out to prove they existed to put us anti-vaxxers in their place with the science. She was a science journalist and documentary producer. Her book is her journey from moving to pro-vaxxer to not believing in viruses. She questions and doubts but eventually comes to the conclusion there are no viruses.

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This makes me think of Dr. Chris Knobbe's video outling the primary cause of death and how and why they have changed since the Civil War era. After air and water, what we eat has largest impact on our health and well being. Four years ago I changed my diet to single ingredient whole foods, eliminating sugar, factory oils and processed foods while getting blood work baseline numbers then suplementing vitamins, minerals and hormones as needed under a endocrinologist's supervison. My reason for this was weight loss, sleep management, immune function and overall health. I agree with your assessment and believe we can do better with eliminating environmental toxins while improving quality of nutrition rather than relying on small molecule pharmaceuticals.

Thank you for the great article.

https://youtu.be/7kGnfXXIKZM

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Bingo! There is nothing more important than prevention and that starts with a good diet. It sounds like you've zeroed in on some excellent basics.

I've talked about all of those things in previous posts and I'll be talking more about them as time goes along.

I watched enough of the video to say I'm in full agreement with Dr. Knobbe. I removed vegetable oils from my diet about 25 years ago and even removed olive oil from my diet about 3 years ago. I have plenty of lard from one of my organic pigs a neighbor and I recently slaughtered (doing another one this Tuesday), and that combined with 5 raw egg yolks a day from my pastured hens and other ancestral fats like butter, coconut oil and raw red palm oil (from small family farms) make up the bulk of my fats.

It's somewhat ironic that Dr. Mercola is currently working on a book about the dangers of vegetable oils.

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May I ask what made you turn off olive oil? And why raw red palm oil? Ive never heard of it!

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Unprocessed, raw palm oil is naturally red, loaded with beneficial carotenoids vitamins A and E. The one I use comes from S.A. where the palm is handgrown in small family plots.

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For starters, its really hard to find pure olive oil, most has been cut with cheap vegetable oil. Olive oil also has a significant amount of polyunsaturated omega 6, which when consumed in a ratio higher than 1 to 1 with omega 3, becomes toxic and causes all sorts of nasty health problems. There are other reasons but those are the main ones.

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Thank you, Kyle. I so appreciate your take on things. I also did a double-take on Mercola's article. What? I couldn't believe it. Like you, I thought he had been threatened considering his previous work to date. It's not unheard of, especially not in the last two years. I recently heard Ursula Van Der Leyen was blackmailed to buy vaccines for Europe, her husband had to take a position of some sort. And think of all the African nations whose leaders refused vaccines and Covid mandates, and then suddenly died or disappeared. With so much money and power at stake, the Pharma companies don't take no for an answer. It is without doubt in my mind they have hit men on retainers.

While I had instant misgivings about the pandemic from the beginning, it wasn't until October 2020 that I was seriously red-pilled about it. I watched both Plandemic docs as well as the Fall of the Cabal and started to listen to James Corbett. Everything fell apart and the hidden truths were revealed in all their dark Satanic evil.

Over Xmas 2021 I was red-pilled again with deeper revisionist history about WWI and II. This deception isn't just the last few years or the last century, it goes waaaay back. I had to literally throw out all I learned, all my truth markers and do my own reset, to be wide open and not make my mind up about anything until I'd unveiled enough to get to the truth, if there was even such a thing! I mean, history is history. Once you strip the accepted version written by the winners, what do you have? It's mostly anecdotal and interpretation. Then you have to use your own inner knowing and intuition. It makes the whole notion of 'facts' come loose.

Phew... so here I am reading your posts and nodding.

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So much is being exposed right now. Hard to keep up with all the evil that has transpired over the past 100 years - alongside the rise of corporatism and the accumulation of incredible wealth that has followed that.

Thanks Navyo.

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There is nefarious intent with this - and any of the leads who get central FOX news promotion are in on it. Everyone isn't just some duped fool - and the people who have appointed themselves the leadership of the PEOPLE's freedom/truth movement are there to coopt and deceive. Controlled opposition are on the SAME payroll and belong to the SAME club as the MSM first line disinformation agents.

Mercola blog may be viewed here:

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2022/01/20/yes-sars-cov-2-is-a-real-virus/

This is not Mercola's only sin. He is a proponent of pharmaceutical sales pitches such as early treatment saves live (even if one completely ascribed to the official false narrative, this makes no sense, 99% of purported Covid cases present as mild to moderate, so a mass early prevention drug program is unnecessary on THAT merit alone)

https://stillnessinthestorm.com/2021/12/drs-mercola-and-mccullough-the-covid-shots-are-killing-people/

Both are pushing in the above, Bill Gates monoclonal antibodies which cause cancer per the DESIGN and mechanism of the drug

So, Mercola isn't some innocent, he is selling poison same as those who shill the vaccine - just in a different form

https://www.unite4truth.com/post/monoclonal-antibodies-study-in-tactics-utilized-to-sell-opposition-on-next-wave-gates-covid-drugs

The controlled opposition is about to hit the wall, and it can't hold. The drugs they are promoting are killing people same as vaccines and once people understand that ALL of these treatments are a tactic of warfare, not health - anyone who sold any of these drugs will lose all remnants of their quickly fading credibility.

The whole diversion to fight weapons as genocide as a medical choice issue is a diversion tactic.

Yes, medical autonomy is important however this isn't about having an informed choice about medical procedures

This is a war against the citizens of the globe. They have NO benevolent intent. This is a culling and control grab, the pandemic is a trojan horse:

https://www.unite4truth.com/post/covid-19-virus-isolation-where-is-the-evidence-sars-cov2-the-trojan-horse-in-the-room

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I assume the link to the piece with your name as the author is by you. If so, nicely done. Thanks for that good info.

Yes, several comments here now have me questioning my *previously* long held approval of Mercolas work.

And yes, when I heard Joe Rogan say some months ago the he took monoclonal antibodies to treat his minor bout of covid I thought... well he may not be around much longer. But then he also takes a lot of other good stuff, so he may be a good one to watch.

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As always, thanx Kyle.

This post has got my understanding written all over it.

I won't bore you w/ details. Suffice it to say that some of us thrive on expansion of

consciousness and "moving on".

Personally, I tend to ascribe to Dr. Zach Bush's perspective on the purpose and function of the virome. I do not fear genetic upgrades intended for my edification.

RE: timelines of the GDA, (Global Domination Agenda) including the subset gda

(global depopulation agenda), as w/ everything in our reality panorama, there appear to be

many levels.

Before the "bibe" there was the Nag Hammadi text. (Archons)

As Navyo pointed out : "it goes waaaay back".

Thanx again for another great article.

Turk

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Yup, it's ancient.

Your very welcome Turk.

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It is late and I read your article very quickly, but it does deserve some discussion.

My impressions of Cowan and Kauffman mostly have to do with how they present themselves, and not the content of their arguments. They both seemed a bit too smug to me, and somehow disconnected with the cultural churn going on right now that centers not around medical theory but around data of real economic and personal damage created by the pro-vaccine group.

It is as if they inserted themselves into the conversation to make it more complex and confusing than it already is. In other words, for the most part the controversy at this point has nothing to do with germ theory.

But another way of looking at their work is that it invites us to take our blinders off and look at a wider view of life. And I agree that this is very much needed if we are not to climb out of the current rut we are in and just fall into another one.

Their view is, basically, that germs aren't the only cause, or even the primary cause, of disease. Disease is caused by various toxicities that attack us either directly on a cellular (biological) level, or in other more subtle ways. To ignore these toxicities and the obvious handling for them (detoxification) is to ignore one of the most promising approaches we know of to becoming more healthy permanently. I believe Cowan and Kauffman err mostly by focusing on the weaknesses of germ theory as a theory rather than the weaknesses of a medical system based on the theory which has failed to produce a healthy population. We don't need theories for theory's sake. We need them to guide us in making people healthy. If they don't do that, then they are being used for some other purpose.

And that's the point about germ theory. It is being used to drive profits rather than improve health. And that has condemned it just as much as its factual failings. Not only do we need more workable theories of disease, but we also need practitioners willing to apply those theories to actually making people well. We have some practitioners who have done this with nothing much more than germ theory and common sense to guide them. This indicates that germ theory is not totally useless. it's just not a very good theory, that's all.

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Given that both of them have spent many decades treating people in their private practices, all the while incorporating much of what they preach about health, nutrition and so on, I think they are in a very fine position to say what they do. I've known Dr. Cowan for nearly 6 years and I know he has works very hard at offering alternative healing pathways. I can also tell you he hates the word "alternative", preferring true healing over alternative. So, I disagree. I feel they HAVE presented alternatives - its just that few know about them.

Furthermore, both have been pointing numerous other problems all along the way; toxins, emf's, processed foods etc. They are also some of the lone voices speaking out on the need to consider the spiritual aspects of our being. So again, I think its misleading to say they have put all their eggs in the germ theory basket.

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Yes, it would be (I think you mean ANTI-germ theory basket) but I didn't say that's what they are doing. I think they have a poor PR image because of how they have been comporting themselves in interviews. And I think their emphasis on germ theory is unnecessary right now. I'd like to see more emphasis on: How do I get well and stay well? Of course germ theory is one reason we are still asking that question. But it isn't the only reason. I have seen "traditional" doctors who are perfectly well-meaning and basically anti-vax being asked to field questions about germ theory, and they are not really familiar with Cowan's and Kauffman's arguments regarding this, so their answers tend to be dismissive and thus divisive. I just don't think we need that right now. We need better ways to get and stay healthy. I prefer to listen to the doctors who are emphasizing those points right now, even if they are sure that a virus causes covid. If our freedoms of speech survive all this, we can talk more about germ theory. After all, it is a pretty crummy theory.

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I read this because the title raises a question in which I have tangential interest. I form opinions based on observations, (admittedly) influenced by research. Research invariably includes conclusions made and shared by others. It is fair to assume, that those people formed their opinions much the same way -- though some have the luxury of training in a given field which we call "expertise". Obviously, Dr. Fauci has "expertise" in the area of virology. Yet, he claims that HIV causes AIDS, and other equally credible "experts" claim there are AIDS patients who apparently do not have HIV. (This is discussed in JFK's Fauci book, as elsewhere). This is not something I would every be able to prove or disprove, so I accept it as a hypothetical challenge that I cannot alone resolve.

I'm not going to buy a book "the fallacy of believing that viruses cause illness"), at this stage of seeking understanding without something more, any more than I'll buy a book on "alien civilizations live in underground cities below the Antarctic ice", or "graphene oxide in COVID-19 vaccines self-assemble to form 5G antenna that will be used to control your brain" (and, yes, I know they're not vaccines). Somethings I can summarily dismiss based on innate intelligence and discernment coupled with physical observation and understanding -- and I am totally satisfied with that.

Yet, there are some things which spark interest beyond anything I'll ever be able to physically observe, which posses enough credibility to compel me to at least keep my mind open.

Perhaps if someone here could post something concise and believable that explains why it is that if I "get sick" with "flu symptoms," more often than not my wife will come down with similar afflictions. And, if a family member comes around use while exhibiting the "symptoms" they too -- more often than not -- come down with similar symptoms. This has been observed throughout the recorded history of man. And, quite frankly -- though I can't cite to it off-the-cuff -- I believe this is not inconsistent with what the Bible says (I'd have to do more research on this point to argue it).

So, I'm open minded on this issue. Yet, I have not found a reasonable explanation for my own personal observations about "contracted afflictions" consistent with my research into those who have expertise in this area of science. Long way to say, convince me that a better explanation exists.

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To answer your question in your fourth paragraph, you might want to reread the section in the piece under "the arguments".

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Hi Scooter. I comprehend your apprehension. I would just like to offer this:

1) Everything in life is mental first. Therefore, what you believe to be true (or false) will become so. If I believe that humans are germ-y and can transfer their germs to others, then energetically, I — and others with the same beliefs — create that reality.

2) The only true forces are electricity and magnetism. On a psycho-spiritual level, we attract what we believe and we give it energy, and the wheel goes on.

Just a couple of thoughts!

Wishing you well.

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I don’t know that what I’m going to write proves or disproves anything, but it’ll add some (my) biblical perspective if nothing else.

The biblical info on sickness as it pertains to the Law is MOSTLY found in Leviticus (although the the first 5 books of the Bible all touch on some aspect of Mosaic law). The New Testament mentions sickness too, but the Torah is the main source of the Law, i.e. how to handle it.

The info in Leviticus about leprosy is fascinating. I spent some time studying it in depth last May. Biblical leprosy doesn’t just pertain to the illness we call leprosy, as many biblical commentaries you can read will cover. For the purpose of this reply, though, the 2 “sicknesses” which are pertinent are the illness we call leprosy and the leprosy in houses and on clothing.

I was reading Leviticus 13: 47-49 and had a lightbulb moment. It speaks of the “mark of leprosy” on clothing and then describes what it looks like. “That’s mold!” I said out loud and wrote it in the margin of my Bible. Then I got to ch.14 and verses 34-47 discuss leprosy of the house. I had the same response, that it was mold. I then researched these passages for a few days, studying in the Hebrew, in biblical commentaries, etc. and my suspicions were confirmed (Sidenote: My children and I lived in a house with toxic mold and all 3 of us got very sick - another example where we all got sick in close proximity, yet proximity wasn’t the culprit, environment was. I had complete organ failure in 2017 as a result, so mold is in my wheelhouse, so to speak).

What’s most telling about leprosy (the illness) and leprosy of clothing & houses is that both are caused by identifiable environmental factors. The illness is caused by a bacteria called Mycobacterium leprae and it is well-known today that it exists where environmental cleanliness & hygiene are lacking. The leprosy of clothing & house is caused by fungi.

The “cure” for the house is to tear out the stones, timber, and plaster that have the mark of leprosy and discard them OUTSIDE the city. The house is then repaired with new stones, timber, and plaster. If the mark of leprosy returns, the whole house has to be torn down.

Another thing that is telling is that these directives about the house are given to the Israelites as they are getting ready to enter the Promised Land. The direct implication is that when they kick out the inhabitants of Canaan, the houses they take over might be moldy (indicating also that the Canaanites might not be very good builders and/or housekeepers). So there are laws on how to handle it. Anyone who has dealt with mold in a house knows the directions above are pretty much what you have to do today to get rid of mold. Fungicides are ineffective in the long term. Tearing out the moldy material is the best “cure.”

The Laws of the Old Testament is full of references to cleanliness. The old adage that cleanliness is next to godliness is underpinned by OT laws. And how very interesting that the Israelites were called to hold a different & higher standard in this regard compared to the people who were not “God’s chosen.” When you read these laws and get behind them, it’s clear they were given to protect people from illness and wreckage. The idea of sin being tied to uncleanliness, illness, foolishness, sexual immorality etc. may not sit well with modern sensibilities; however, it’s telling that adherence to these guidelines PRACTICALLY protects people from many things. I find it all interesting.

P.S. Leviticus is NOT what I’d call scintillating reading, and can be quite a snorefest if read straight through. But last year I got quite a lot from it!

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Never thought of the leprosy stories as being metaphorical. But given that so much of the Bible is metaphorical, (I love the parables of Jesus) why not?

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"Cleanliness is next to godliness" is not in the Bible, it's from Gandhi. I'm in construction and mold is a racket. What your saying is that good, clean people don't get sick. No comment.

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And no, I’m not saying “good clean people” don’t get sick. I’m saying there was a template set in place for how people should live. Didn’t mean you’d not getting sick, not have hardship, etc. but that’d you’d be less likely to. Just like if you eat a “healthy” diet you’re less likely to have certain kinds of illness. Doesn’t eradicate it, but helps.

I’m not in construction so I don’t know about mold’s racketeering properties, but I know it made me and my 2 children very sick.

Clean is better than dirty when it comes to how I live, but maybe I’m just a prude. But does it negate mold? No.

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There are different types of mold, I'm guessing you know this. Some mold does make people sick. I've done demo on projects that had lots of mold and none of the crew got sick.

I haven't yet seen anything to give a better explanation for people getting sick after being around others who were sick.

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Most molds actually DO NOT make people as sick as we got, and even those molds that DO make people sick don’t affect everyone the same way. This to me is a no brainer since people’s bodies all have different deficiencies & strengths, immune health, etc.

You bring up a subject I’ve asked my mold doctor about...why do so many construction workers who demo moldy buildings seem not to get sick like me & my kids did? His response was that our exposure was long-term and constant during a time of elevated levels of active mold (tons of rain that year). Most construction folks have demo’ed in many different circumstances but most aren’t living there. He also claimed a lot of construction workers ARE sick from mold, but not acutely like we were, but rather chronically. The list of chronic symptoms is too long to write here but bears a mention.

Also I agree. I have no real explanation that I can hang my hat upon regarding people getting sick after being around other sick people.

Thanks for the repartee. I appreciate insights from people’s areas of expertise.

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You are correct, that quote is not in the Bible; however, it encompasses an idea most people understand.

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Thanks for your thought-provoking and well-researched articles. I echo what many have already said, so shall not repeat those sentiments. I love that you have an intelligent readership. It makes reading the comments so enjoyable versus in so many other comment arenas where one must wade through the Neanderthal pool of lowest common denominator. Which, frankly, I refuse to do any longer. I think your postings are the only online comments I read anymore. “Discerning palate” and all that jazz. Ha.

Re: markers...my most difficult marker hurdle was the wall I faced 15 years ago when I was pregnant with my first child. It had never occurred to me to question the whole children’s jab schedule until my children’s father began to research. He insisted we not vaxx our baby, but I dug my heels in and said I needed to research too. That research was revolutionary. The veil was permanently torn in the temple at which I didn’t even know I was worshipping. It was also horrendous.

Back then the anti-vaxx information available was just beginning to surface. My mind went back & forth, knowing I wholly held the future of the little life growing inside me, and if I made the choice to vaxx her, it might very well be irrevocable. But I wasn’t sure. I just couldn’t read fast enough, confirm the character & reputation of the authors fast enough (which also required slogging through tons of disinformation), or think of “all the right questions.” I didn’t yet know then how to fully recognize the earmarks of propagandized medical info, so I had to learn to read and process information differently.

Even after she was born I still wasn’t sure. I had enough info to know there was a chance she could be harmed, but everything I found was anecdotal. I only knew allopathic medicine back then, and all those guys were saying how safe everything they proffered was.

What finally convinced me was the local pediatrician. He told me 1) to give my baby formula rather than breastfeeding and 2) he made parents sign an agreement that you’d give your child all the recommended jabs otherwise he’d drop you as a patient. The lack of vaccine choice was the warning bell that tolled high & clear and I walked away from the “markers” I’d held to be true. And when I turned to scale the wall of that difficult decision I’d faced for nearly a year, I’d found it had already been disassembled stone by stone, and my path was unobstructed.

I’ve never looked back.

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Agreed. As simple farm boy, I'm often humbled by the amazing community here.

Great story Vox! And what a nice metaphor. It seems many are now in the process of dismantling that stone wall and are discovering that on the other side lies the path to freedom. I recently slaughtered one of my pigs with several families that belong to a church where the entire congregation has dismantled this wall. What an inspiring group of people!

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Just joined your community. As an ethical vegan, the thought of church-goers slaughtering a life together disturbs me, but I guess it’s better than those who feast on the flesh off animals tortured in horrid conditions & then put through the horrors of industrial slaughter. But I’m glad to be here as I have been questioning the allopathic model since before my 2 sons (now 23 & 21) were born. Neither were vaccinated and were raised on a mostly plant-based diet. Both were always the healthiest of their peers. We used a homeopathic pediatrician & regular chiropractic care.

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Welcome Julia! So happy to have you here.

If you go back and read some of my old posts you'll find that I was a vegan for the better part of 10 years in the late 70's early 80's. It didn't work for me - I developed some serious health issues. So now I'm an ethical omnivore. I now adhere to the Native American philosophy that all life is sacred, that there is no form of life more sacred than another, and that the same reverence that should be exercised when removing a head of cabbage from its life source must be exercised when taking the head of a pig from its life source.

We all take life with every step we take. When I look out across the wilderness landscape outside my window I see a natural world where everything is eating or being eaten. For one life to live, another must die. It's the never ending circle of life.

Love to hear stories about parents who raise their kids with no jabs. Good for you!

Most of the people present for that pig slaughter were kids. One couple has 10, another 6 and another 2. All participated to some degree and all came away with a deeper appreciation for how real, healthy food is grown and prepared. Wish you could have been there.

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The timing of this article was impeccable as I have lately been doubting my own sanity regarding this issue. The controlled ops are out in full force making those of us “covid deniers” out to be complete kooks. The list of those on the Freedom side is extremely handy. Thanks again for this well-written piece that I will be sending to many people. Reality really is crazier than most could ever imagine!

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Happy to be in sync with you. Thanks shan.

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Excellent analysis, Kyle. I'm disappointed by Mercola's stance but not surprised. He's a big supporter of Mikovits (of Plague of Corruption fame) and belief in viruses is dogma for him. Virus skeptism is flat-earth nonsense to him, which is why he probably censors it.

I'm a virus skeptic myself- because I know they haven't been truly proven to exist. But I acknowledge it's possible they do exist- and perhaps we simply don't have the technology to truly purify them and sequence them. (In that case, all vaccines would still be scientific nonsense since they could be based on the "wrong" virus or "wrong" spike protein sequence.) The main obstacle to displacing the virus paradigm is replacing it with another paradigm the public will accept. Yes, toxins and bacteria can explain many illnesses- but what explains something like the flu? Can natural and manmade EMF (per Arthur Firstenberg) truly explain something "infectious" like the flu? Can "DNA/water "transmission" per Montagnier explain "infectious" diseases?

Del Bigtree (Highwire) recently acknowledged the SARS-COV-2 virus may not exist and that germ theory may be wrong. But he thinks it's too high a hurdle to convince the public of that and he thinks we can win with germ theory arguements. I'm actually fine with that and glad to know he's a potential virus skeptic.

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I'm actually not convinced that viruses do not exist. We know exosomes (briefly mentioned in the piece) exist and there seems to be some confusion between them and viruses. The bigger question is whether or not viruses are causative of disease. Or are they just innocent bystanders that happen to be at the scene of an accident?

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I would say it’s like the micro biome of bacteria, in that it’s normal to have many viruses present within us - they only become a problem if they get out of balance because the host is weakened in some way. I don’t believe that negates germ theory though, it’s just too overemphasised in reductionist modern medicine. We require a more holistic, complex systems paradigm (which has emerged already but people like Fauci who are full of hubris thinking they can control viruses are stuck in the past).

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The problem is, how do we study a germ outside of the body? As you likely know, removing anything from its system alters it.

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Can you please explain viral syndromes and what you think is the cause of them, then? Open honest question…not a ’gotcha’. Clearly fever, chills, myalgias, congestion, cough, etc. has some causative factor…

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Welcome Doc.

I'm going to point you to an earlier post, that links to even earlier posts.

https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/emfs-5g-vaccines-the-real-causes

You might also want to watch my interview with Dr. Tom Cowan.

https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/interview-with-dr-tom-cowan-4a9

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Thanks. I’ll take a look

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"how can we be so sure that many other diseases are not being caused by the radiation poisoning now occurring from cell phones, 5G towers, EMF’s in the home (wifi, microwave ovens, refrigerators, digital meters etc) at the office, on a ship (many now have onboard 5G), at a concert (with tens of thousands of cell phones in use in close proximity)?"

We can be quite sure of that because the radiation you refer to can be measured. Both in strength and in frequencies used. And that is where all arguments against these radiation sources fall flat; Prior to the growth of cable-TV, digital radio, wireless internet, 2,3,4,5G we had actual TV signal and FM/AM radio transmitters, powerful ones at that, most ranged from 10 kiloWatt to 100 kW strong, per TV-channel, per radio-station, and our countries were loaded with them. The frequencies used don't differ that much from the ones you call new here. Which begs the question: Why was nobody complaining back when we were radiation poisoned a thousandfold in strength compared to what we face now? The HF, RF, LF radiation we had to endure in the 1970s was way worse than what we face now. Not even mentioning the radiation coming from CRT screens (old TV-tubes), tube-amps and tube-radio-receivers. It was all horrible, compared to what we measure now. And interestingly: The measurement devices are still the same, still work the same way, still measure the same frequencies. So, unless you deny their functionality, or physics, your story makes no sense whatsoever.

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I'm working on a new piece about this, maybe by next week.

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Hey Kyle, this is Gary from GVFM. Finally read your latest piece. You have surely stirred the yellow jackets' nest. While not agreeing or disagreeing at this point, I applaud your efforts to uncover the truth.

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Thanks for reading and chiming in Gary.

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I have a few issues with how you've divided people into camps, especially with the language of "conservative camp" vs. "freedom camp." I'll write up an article in response probably, though I've already wrote about it already (see below). But my short version is: I think viruses exist, and some people are simply more vulnerable to them for a variety of reasons. The idea that "just because all people don't get sick from X virus means viruses don't exist" is simply illogical.

Furthermore, I'll go so far as to say that the idea that viruses don't exist is a "poison the well" propaganda tactic that was probably seeded by the very people you are fighting against, in order to make the entire movement look insane. So consider that before patting yourselves on the head for being more "awake" than those of us who think germs are real. It's a pointless focus right now.

Even if you are right, you will never convince the majority about it, and you don't need to make this point to fight against mandates. So all in all, it's a LOSING strategy and a waste of energy, IMHO. And now, with articles like this, you're helping foment more fighting among people who should be on the same side. Divide and conquer. Not helpful in the least. You're welcome to believe what you want, but I'd encourage you to avoid putting people into "camps" for disagreeing with you (pun intended.)

https://wholistic.substack.com/p/viruses-are-real

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Of course, I disagree. To consider just a few of your points.

1) The thesis in your piece, that the virus was engineered in a lab, serves those running this false flag operation very well because it further reinforces the argument that viruses exist and are causative. See my interview with Dr. Tom Cowan regarding this topic -

https://rumble.com/c/c-1219704

2) It seems apparent that you haven't done much research because you are quite wrong saying that the idea that viruses aren't real "sprouted up in the past year". The reality is, this debate has been going on since the mid 1880's when Béchamp and Pastuer were in

the thick of their research. May I suggest you begin filling in your gaps by reading this book

https://www.amazon.com/Bechamp-Pasteur-Chapter-History-Biology/dp/1467900125

3) Regarding point #2, where is your proof that the covid virus exists?

4) You refer to covid as being a set thing. It's not. It's a set of symptoms that resembles numerous other forms of colds and flu, which are not the causative issues. Those symptoms are our immune systems inflammatory response to some unknown insult to our physical and/or spiritual being. The only difference is.. some elites in influential positions have told us its something different (covid), without offering any proof.

5) As far "make(ing) the movement look insane"... This quote is often attributed to Einstein, but it may not have originated with him: "A universal characteristic of insanity is inflexibly doing the same thing over and over while hoping for different results. Flexibility in the face of changing circumstances, by contrast, is a hallmark of mental health." We've been living under the dictates of germ theory for over 100 years now, and in that time chronic illness has gone from 6% of the US population in 1960 to 54% today. Autism has gone from 1 in 20,000 boys in 1940 to 1 in 22 today. You're certainly welcome to continue down that path, but I and many others no longer see that as a viable, sane, direction.

5) Divide and conquer? You are certainly welcome to be happy with merely ending the mandates. Myself and my readers prefer complete freedom, medical and otherwise, and that will not happen until we get to the bottom of the virus debate. As long as big pharma continues to keep people believing that viruses exist and are causative, they will rule and we will be subject to forever plandemics and phony vaccines. If this is your preference, then I would have to question your allegiance.

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While viruses were determined to be sources of contagion in my lifetime, why does that mean there is no germ theory? Does that mean that bacteria and parasites don't cause illnesses or potentially make people sick? It seems I am confused.

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That's just it, viruses have never been *proven* to be sources of contagion, which is why it remains a theory and why it's been historically challenged, and why it's being even more challenged right now.

Bacteria and parasites are often associated with viruses, but of course they're different, much bigger critters, easy to see intact under a microscope. So no, one is saying their not problematic.

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That's better. Thanks, Kyle. There seems to be a lot of questions that relate to the "virus". In the Spartacus Letter the group of authors describe the contagion as sepsis, even as everyone was told it was a viral pneumonia.

It was immediately interesting to hear how the anti-parasitic meds like HCQ worked so well they were banned by the powers that be.

Also from the Spartacus Letter, It was also interesting that anti-oxidants help people prevent and cure so-called covid. I wondered where they came up suddenly smearing Zantac saying a little bit causes multitudes of cancers. I've taken it often for over 15 years and never had any suggestion of cancer. Turns out ranitidine is a very powerful anti-oxidant. It is superior to other acid reducers in that it can stop an extreme stomach pain in a few minutes. None of the others can do that.

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Howard Zinn is a propagandist whose work has done more to dumb down America's children than CRT could ever hope to.

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Do I agree with everything Howard Zinn says? No. Do I agree with the above quote? Yes.

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You know what they say about broken clocks. Point is, they're still broken.

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Can you provide examples of how? Curious since I’ve held him in high regard. But I’ve been rethinking so much of my views these past 2 years.

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There is a lot out there to read, but you can start with this:

https://www.aft.org/sites/default/files/periodicals/Wineburg.pdf

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